Topic, Game "BLockoban 2"

  have fun martin, i like iron maiden too

  Long time i haven't played BB2 :D new levels yay :D

  I'm going to an Iron Maiden concert and will probably be absent for a couple of days. More evaluating on thursday.

  Probably later, there aren't alot of levels now.

  Hmm.. what about awards in BLocoban 2? Jp should make some :)

  Anonycat, when the cheaters are found they are banned. It is obvious that it is against the rules to hack the site, and the system that you introduced might also be hackable too. So, your system would just deter the hackers, if it does anything at all, and the hackers would be banned anyway. I appreciate your input on trying to solve some of BL's problems with hackers, and I am sure that the rest of the members do too.

  We don't want to waste our time to find cheaters, they dn't achieve anything by that anyways.

  It doesn't have to reveal the moves you sent, it should just check them one time internally to see that they produce a valid solution. Once that's done, it doesn't need to keep that list of moves anymore, much less put them in any public-accessible space.

  showing the moves would spoil the solution and everybody could see how that user did it.
As for mallecious scores, the scores will be removed and the users limited.
Also note you are bringing bad peoples to ideas.

  With a packet sniffer, you can easily find the format of the HTTP packets it uses to send scores, and forge one that says "I completed level 132 in 1 move" without even having to use the BL applet. The site will unquestioningly accept such a packet and add it to the scores tab. Indeed, it appears just such has happened to several levels in the past before someone with database access was able to remove the scores.

Wouldn't it be better if the game submitted a replay of the moves, instead of just the final score? The server could run a lightweight simulation of the game and verify that the list of moves it receives would actually complete the level, and if it does then it adds the score it calculated to the database (in case of an unforeseen bug where the move count in the applet gets desynced, this wouldn't matter and the server would only award the "proper" score. Forgery under this system would be pointless since you would have to know a valid solution to the level already, and if that's the case you can just play that solution in the game itself.

Much better than having to trust potentially malicious clients.

  I have no any ideas of whatever you are meant to say.
But welcome to BL anyway.
but if I understand what you mean.
What you say in the comments doesn't count, there is a score tab.

  Why does the game even accept scores that can be spoofed with a simple packet forger (saying, for example, "Oh yeah, I completed this level in 1 move")? Why doesn't it take inputs from a replay/list of moves and validate/calculate scores based on that?

  flowerbunny, don't make off topic posts

  @Gary: I just made one that I actually manage to solve (unlike my first level)! But I guess the score can be reduced...

  no garygoh but i haven't any idea's anymore

  I can't believe that I'm the only one making BB2 levels for this game...

Bye, Martin, maybe we could have oldmanrob to be our next admin for this game?

  Thanks Rob! Not THAT many stupid things to do in an old cottage by the sea, except for a new boat with a bigger engine. But of course these days it says in the safety instructions on EVERY outboard engine that it is NOT supposed to be hung inside a barrel and used for mixing cocktails! Then we can exclude that stupid thing.

Thanks for your concern, I'll try to be careful!

  Have a great holiday, Martin! (Don't do too many stupid things.)

  I'm going on vacation and will be off-line between 18th of July and 8th of August. I think both Elizea and jp will be on vacation in some of that period. If you want any levels evaluated, you either have to hurry up or wait for 3 weeks!

  Lol! My score is 888!

  I don't think that's a good idea, since you would just be able to complete 1500 BB 1 levels and never played this game.

I agree 400 would be a good amount.

  i vote for a combined total of 1500 in both blockoban and blockoban 2. (see awards topic)

  500 is too much.. 400??

  I vote for 595.

  I vote 602. Don't know if there is someone around who is more adict than me.

  400 is better

  I think 300 levels would too less

  Yeah! 500 is better, because i completed 497 xD, but no i real think 500 is better.

But we already have an idea for 300:

Blockoban 2 Addict:
Complete 300 levels of Blockoban 2.
EXP +100



Picture by gundu and allyally, about the award i dont know.

  i'm not good at making blockoban 2 levels...i may need more practice!

  Ah, categorie is french for category, JP must have had the habit :P